Tuesday, December 28, 2010

Atheist turned to Christianity

I've read today a small bit of an interview with some atheist, who became a preacher. Christians will always point out those atheist turned to christianity as to prove, that their way is the right one. When in fact, it does not prove anything. It's complete ignorance to other evidence, because there are also a lot of christians, that in the end convert to atheism. And that's not to be considered as a proof of atheism's right way, as well. Because it doesn't matter, who believes in something. It doesn't make it the reality, even if it would be belief of the wisest person in the world. Just remember those times, when people believed, that the earth is flat. Event those most educated ones. And is the earth flat, just becaused it was believed so?

It's the reason, why someone turned their belief system completely, that should be used to make valid points. And let's face it. Lot of christians get turned to atheism without any really valid reasons. Similar to what happens with atheists turned to christianity. But some people claim to have valid reasons. This converted preacher is one of them. So they asked him, naturally, about his reasons. And they were just plainly wrong. I mean, it's a nice example of when people think, that they gave it much thought, when they really didn't.

His answer was, that he used to believe, that everything is behaving according to laws of physics and everything is only about matter, etc. But then he realized, that, when his thoughts are just some sideproduct of these chemical and physical rules, then there's no real way to tell anything about existence of God. And it's like saying, that I like coffee, but you might like tea. And I am unable to find any logic in this statement. I mean.. Just read it again. It's completely meaningless.

The first wrong assumption is, that this world is only from matter. I mean.. Okey, it is, we don't know about anything else, than matter. But there are unexplained mysteries, like dark energy, which don't behave, like any polite matter would. And it very well might be just something else happening. Something, that could not be explained by matter, but something else. I am not saying, that there is something else. I'm just saying, don't be blind to other options. There certainly CAN be other options. And christians always believe, that atheists think, that everything begins with matter, that matter is the only important thing about this world, and how it works. While it is the most basic principle, by which all the universe works, certainly, there is place for another phenomens of matter's level. And noone says, they aren't, but we don't seem to observe it, yet.

But even so, let's not just jump into conclusion, that then it must be something spiritual going on. Well, no. It doesn't have to. We are speaking about something we don't even know exists, so we can't just say, it must be something spiritual. In fact, there is no place for you to say, it must be anything, unless you can point out some tendencies, that without obvious flaws could explain, what there is other, than matter. Without it.. I'm sorry.. Your argument just can't be taken into account. From what we know so far, the world really works fine without anything spiritual going on.

The biggest problem with spirituality is something, what I want to write a little bit more about, now. By moving to other fallacy in that preacher's reasons for turning to christianity. And he said, that we cannot prove God and that one might say that he likes coffee, the other guy likes tea. Okey, there's big difference, because beverage preference does  not try to persuade people about anything. I mean, if you like coffee more, than tea, than you are just drinking it, but there is no such law in physics, that coffee cannot taste well. It's not scientifically testible and it never will be, because it's about personal preference. Science can explain mechanisms behind that preference. But cannot evaluate which preference is more right, because it's simply not an mathematical equation, that needs to be solved. Unlike the beginning of the universe, or existence of God. Okey, we don't know, how to test the possibility of God's existence, or beginning of the universe, yet. But wheter God exist, or not, that is not a preference. That is, wheter some equation is right or wrong. There's big difference between liking coffee or tea and saying that God exist, while the other guy believes, that He doesn't exist. And belief in God can be grounded on evidence(or lack of it), unlike coffee, which you can't prove, that is always tasty for everyone.

But that is not even the point, it's simply one of other fallacies in that statement, in those reasons. But what lot of people, that believe in some kind of higher power exist, think about spirituality is simply wrong. You see... Lot of people will say: You can't explain by matter this and this, it must be some kind of higher power. And that's wrong statement. We established that in some previous entry, that our unability to do so, doesn't make it neccessarily a higher power. And the other thing is.. Okey, so we know Big Bang happened, but we don't know, what was before. So there are a few approaches for this. The most stupid, without giving into it any thought is to say: It was God. One of the other approaches is to say, we are part of some multiverse and our universe, the one we live in was created when in some other dimensions two universes collided. Now.. We can't say for now about any of these two possible approaches, which is right and even if any of them is right.

But what we can see is very obvious difference. Those guys working with other universes might not be right, but they at least EXPLAIN exactly, what happens according to their theory. And it's mathematicaly consistent. If their assumption about more dimensions than 3 is correct, than their theory is very likely to be true, because it's consistent with how the universe works now. But when you say, God made Big Bang, you achieved nothing. You didn't explain anything. How did he created? How do you know, that all those processes that you might claim as God's doing, would not happen without him being there. How is belief in God consistent with what we already know about how the universe works. And what could such belief possibly gain you for new advancement in knowledge of this world.

Like, when people came up with big bang, it ultimatively meant to raise new questions about atoms, matter itself, about space. And answering those questions might very well bring us new technologies, new devices, new knowledge. But imagine God being the answer for universe coming into existence. So what did you gain in human advancement? Like with a cellphone. You could try to study about matter, how electricity works, how to make LCD displays etc.. Or you could pray to God, to produce one(which should not be that difficult task, since he managed to create the universe). And you probably know, that God's lazy-assed and we have to study our world ourselves, without His help, to produce a cellphone. So we had to study what's there and not turning to spirituality. We have to study the nature, if we want to progress. Spirituality won't get us knowledge, studying, observing, thinking and experimenting will.

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